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Der Wievielte ist heute? What is the date today?
Heute ist der 1. (erste) März. Today is March first.

Den Wievielten haben wir heute? What is the date today?
Heute haben wir den 1. (ersten) März. Today is March first.

In German, there are two ways to express dates. Dates are expressed with ordinal numbers preceded by the masculine form of the definite article (referring to the noun Tag). A period after a number indicates that it is an ordinal. The day always precedes the month as it does in most civilized societies.

Hamburg, den 2. März 2005.

Dates in letter headings or news releases are always in the accusative.

Frank vergisst immer, wann seine Freunde Geburtstag haben. Ihr Geburtstag ist immer zwei Tage später als er denkt. Beantworten Sie seine Fragen.

1. Hat Gisela am dreizehnten Juli Geburtstag?
Nein, am fünfzehnten.
2. Hat Willi am ersten Januar Geburtstag?
Nein, am dritten.
3. Hat Uwe am zweiten März Geburtstag?
Nein, am vierten.
4. Hat Elke am sechsten November Geburtstag?
Nein, am achten.
5. Hat Claudia am achtundzwanzigsten April Geburtstag?
Nein, am dreißigsten.
6. Hat Gerd am fünfundzwanzigsten Dezember Geburtstag?
Nein, am siebenundzwanzigsten.

Okay, that looks fairly straightforward.


Ow, my head. It's been such a day. My Arabic books came! Yay! A grammar, an alphabet book, and a verbs book. Arabic is fucking scary! Boo! (Modern Arabic Standard, for those who want to know.) Anna's Arabic books came! Yay! And now we're both scared. Boo! Hey we can do Arabic for two hours on the weekend! Yay! OMFG FIVE LANGUAGES AT ONCE? Very boo. Or maybe just very frightening in that I consider five languages at once to be manageable. Holy hell. Unholy hell. This, plus looking at the reading list for [livejournal.com profile] yuletide_admin and realizing that, conservatively, 1500 people saw my name linked to some giant feat of pinch hittery. Plus ... well. And plus day job work which, though not busy, has not been quiet either. It's been a day. A very yoyo-y day. I want to go home.

Maybe this is gig crash. Or in my case, Yuletide crash. If that's the case, I'll sure take this over all the WOE NO ONE REC'D ME BARELY ANYONE COMMENTED GUESS I'LL GO EAT WORMS of the previous years. This is just bogglement and exhaustion.

And when I'm this exhausted I shouldn't look at how many verb forms Arabic Standard has I'll be over here in the corner of afraid now. Wow, Kiki wasn't kidding about the caterpillar brain. Fortunately we'll be taking this one nice and slow. Alphabet first. And trying to find a pronunciation guide video or audio file I can mimic.

All I managed to get done today at work was about, um. I think 5000 words plus on the behind the scenes post for Yuletide. Including six things that help me write stupidfast and the last several stories worth of actual behind the scenes stuff. So that's ready to go up tomorrow, and I guess it'll help that tonight it's mostly just outlining and all that jazz. Outlining, maybe writing some more self-indulgent [redacted] fic or just working on one of those many, many more stories I wanted to write based on my various and sundry Yuletide things. That ought to keep me busy. Plus guitar, plus writing kanji, plus figuring out some form of vaguely healthy dinner. And then tomorrow all the chicken and all the chocolate chip cookies ever. Om nom nom.

Sunday, when reveals happen, I will be immersing myself in Bon Cop Bad Cop so as not to even think about whether or not anyone still remembers how many pinch hits I wrote, let alone wants to go see which ones were me. This is definitely gig crash. Needs moar water and protein and sleep.

Adopt one today! Adopt one today!

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Date: 2012-01-01 10:44 pm (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
. . . five languages.


. . .


. . .


oi. Well, at least I don't feel so bad that my inability to choose between Latin and Korean has lately led to mad moments of JUST DO BOTH.

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Date: 2012-01-01 10:56 pm (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
*laughs* I guess it would depend, also, on how quickly you are trying to learn them. My experience with language learning is permanently warped from trying to learn Japanese at college, where I was on OCAAT.

(one course at a time. An entire semester's worth of material in 3.5 weeks, but the theory is that you can handle it because you're only doing one class. Lovely for many, many thing. For my slow and feeble brain....language learning ain't one of them.)

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Date: 2012-01-01 11:06 pm (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
I grew up so monolingual that I sometimes joke that I haven't mastered English yet. I did Latin in high school, and I did Japanese in college, but I have maybe 1% retention of the material I covered for either of those.

It doesn't help that I have an incredibly poor memory, but I also did nothing to maintain discipline when I stopped studying.

(I would like to have it entered into the record that I'm totally blaming you for the fact that my brain is saying 'well if we work on only one language a day we could rotate between Korean and Latin and Japanese and Russian and still have days left over to pick up some extras! GO SIT IN THE CORNER BRAIN.)

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Date: 2012-01-01 11:44 pm (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
:D

Well, I'm already a crazy person so that should help.

First I need to get used to doing anything at all constructive with my brainmeats. Oh, and find my Korean text. That might help.

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Date: 2012-01-02 06:44 pm (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
No, no, not just you. I wonder if Yoon would teach me that one.

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Date: 2012-01-01 11:13 pm (UTC)
lireavue: A red-haired woman in a black dress, playing violin while leaves swirl around her. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lireavue
*cracking up so hard at making your brain sit in the corner* It also helps to have people to do it with, and who can either check your work or flail with you. Jag checks my Spanish, used to check Kiki's before she finished her Spanish textbook. Kiki checks Jag's Russian, another friend checks Jag's Japanese. That seems to give Jag enough motivation to handle the other languages on her own.

We're also planning to start studying Arabic together on the weekends because we're NUTS. Oh my lord how many tenses do verbs need?

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Date: 2012-01-01 11:17 pm (UTC)
lireavue: A red-haired woman in a black dress, playing violin while leaves swirl around her. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lireavue
Yes ma'am. Bowing to the experience of the one who's studied languages not in Roman alphabets.

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Date: 2012-01-01 11:42 pm (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
ALL OF THEM. They need ALL OF THEM. Every single one.

Arabic verbs bring ALL the tenses to your yard.

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Date: 2012-01-01 11:44 pm (UTC)
lireavue: A red-haired woman in a black dress, playing violin while leaves swirl around her. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lireavue
It's really hard to pout at the scary language when I'm giggling this hard, I'll have you know. XD

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Date: 2012-01-02 12:09 am (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
I live to be the comic relief. *bows!*

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Date: 2012-01-02 12:10 am (UTC)
lireavue: A red-haired woman in a black dress, playing violin while leaves swirl around her. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lireavue
Yay! Every comic relief needs a comic relief of their own.

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Date: 2012-01-02 05:43 am (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
. . . the recollection of this conversation is not nearly so amusing now that my textbook has informed me "Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, and Korean are among the most difficult languages for native English speakers to learn because of the vast differences between English and these languages in vocabulary, pronunciation, grammar, and writing system, as well as in the underlying tradition, culture, and society. English speakers require three times as much time to learn these "difficult" languages as to learn "easy" languages, such as French or Spanish, to attain a comparable level of proficiency."

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Date: 2012-01-02 05:47 am (UTC)
lireavue: A red-haired woman in a black dress, playing violin while leaves swirl around her. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lireavue
Yeah, I know. :/ Not one for doing things the easy way, either?

(Chinese Jag and I have both sworn off unless we can find a teacher, at least as far as the spoken language goes, because FUCKING TONAL LANGUAGES. You would think music would help with that, but it's a totally different part of my brain, I guess.)

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Date: 2012-01-02 05:56 am (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
Well, I am suddenly filled with intense, almost inappropriate levels of longing for immediate access to my Latin books instead. >_>

But what the hell, it will be fun. After all, I'll only have to juggle an entirely new writing system, vocab from three languages, a completely different focus for word order, situation orientation and macro-to-micro ordering, honorifics, terms of address, extra pronouns, speech levels and a handful of other things.

(No, not so much for easy.)

(and yeah, I can't even HEAR the tonals. If I ever get stranded in China I'm doomed.)

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Date: 2012-01-02 05:58 am (UTC)
lireavue: A red-haired woman in a black dress, playing violin while leaves swirl around her. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lireavue
Aheh. Start at the beginning with the alphabet! Then, um. ...ah hell, normally I'd say start with "to be."

That's not gonna work here, is it.

Crap.

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Date: 2012-01-02 06:09 am (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
*snerk* Your turn! I'm laughing hard enough that the repeated refrain of CAN'T SLEEP KOREAN WILL EAT ME has broken.

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Date: 2012-01-02 06:11 am (UTC)
lireavue: A red-haired woman in a black dress, playing violin while leaves swirl around her. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lireavue
*bows, wry grin* Good. I'm working up my weekly post to get rid of the CAN'T SLEEP BRAINWEASELS WILL EAT ME refrain. Plus the boy's off work tomorrow, so I think I'm gonna stay up and let tomorrow be only semi-routines.

(Half so Jag knows, so I don't get chewed on too badly when she gets up and sees how late I've been tagging. Ahem.)

(...if you'd rather chat realtime, you do have my gmail.)

(no subject)

Date: 2012-01-02 06:31 am (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
...you can get rid of that refrain?

(but if I'm chatting realtime I can't pretend that really, I'm winding things up to go to bed. I only planned to do that...an hour and a half ago. Chatting will have to happen another night, also replying to messages and forcing myself to take notes on these terrifying things my text book is saying so that my brain will stop glazing over. It be sleeps time now.)

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Date: 2012-01-02 06:33 am (UTC)
lireavue: A red-haired woman in a black dress, playing violin while leaves swirl around her. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lireavue
Sometimes typing it out and making the brainweasels face the cold light of LOGIC and also MACHETES and FRYING PANS and FLAMETHROWERS helps.

(Ahahaha no worries. No, I know, I should've gone awhile ago too, ideally, but the brainweasels WOULD NOT SHUT UP, so I distracted them for long enough that my backbrain could give me some answers. *nodnods* Sleep well!)

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Date: 2012-01-02 06:46 pm (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
I was going to lie, and say no, but yes, yes it is. :P

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Date: 2012-01-02 07:21 pm (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
*laughs* Part of my problem with it was that I had a very traditional instructor, so pretty much we memorized conversations from the text book, and talked about what we ate for lunch. So I never really understood any of the grammar.

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Date: 2012-01-04 02:49 am (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
September, she answered promptly, serene in the knowledge that time rendered her safe.

And I will keep that in mind. I am going to put my Korean notes up (I'll cut, I promise), both so I can find them later, and for Rebecca's sake too.

I love it when the internet can be my external brain. *sighs happily*

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Date: 2012-01-05 03:05 am (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
*sighs patiently* Give that back to whomever you obtained it from RIGHT NOW. That's not nice.

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