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[kittydesade]

Let's see if this works any better if I go back to word construction and individual sounds. (Delayed some
Long vowels: í, é, á, ó, ú
Short vowels: i, e, a, o, u
A consonant is slender if it is preceded or followed by i or e, and broad if it is preceded or followed by a, o, or u

broad L: luí, díol, lae, béal, lá, fál, lón, ól, Lú, cúl
slender L: líne, síl, léine, béil, leá, fáil, leon, óil, liú, súil

(I doubt this will actually help me with pronunciation, I've NEVER been able to pick up the sounds of things from descriptions in books, but that's what songs and radio stations and TV stations and things are for. Hopefully, though, this will help me pick up spelling patterns for conjugations and things.)

A verb which ends in a broad consonant (i.e. preceded by a/o/u) requires an a before the im and imid. e.g. las, meath, mol, ól, pós, scríobh, seas, tar, teann, tóg, tracht, amharc, fág
fág: fágaim, fágann tú, fágann sé, fágann sí, fágaimid, fágann muid, fágann sibh, fágann siad

A verb that ends in a consonant preceded by i includes e before the ann ending. e.g. cuir, ith
cuir: cuirim, cuireann tú, cuireann sé, cuireann sí, cuirimid, cuireann muid, cuireann sibh, cuireann siad

Irish verbs fall into two classes (really? after all that?) according to whether they have an í before the ending. This í becomes aí after a broad consonant, as may be seen by comparing the forms of imigh/imíonn and ceannaigh/ceannaíonn. Notice also:

í + im becomes ím
í + imid becomes ímid
í + ann becomes íonn

Type 1: fanaim, fanann tú, fanann sé, fanann sí fanaimid, fanann muid, fanann sibh, fanann siad

Type 2: imím, imíonn tú, imíonn sé, imíonn sí, imímid, imíonn muid, imíonn sibh, imíonn siad
ceannaím, ceannaíonn tú, ceannaíonn sé, ceannaímid, ceannaíonn muid, ceannaíon sibh, ceannaíonn siad

Well, that was only marginal help.




The verb stem is also the imperative singular, though some older dictionaries use the first-person form (like the other book). Most first-conjugation verbs have one-syllable stems. Indeed, it shows broad with broad and slender with slender because all the broad endings put 'a' before the plural imperative suffix:

lig, ligigí
rith, rithigí
feic, feicigí
seas, seasaigí
glan, glanaigí
dún, dúnaigí
scríobh, scriobhaigí

Verbs pronounced with a final vowel are written with -igh in the singular; this is dropped when the plural imperative (or any other) ending is added. If the vowel is i, it becomes long í when the igh is dropped.

brúigh, brúigí
dóigh, dóigí
léigh, léigí
nigh, nígí

Two syllable verbs (and occasionally one syllable ones) broaden the last consonant before a suffix. This is indicated by dropping the preceding i.

sábháil, sábhálaigí
péinteáil, péinteálaigí
taispeáin, taispeánaigí
siúil, siúlaigí

(And now it's starting to make some more sense.)

Personal endings, which covers what we covered above. -ann for all persons but first, -eann after a slender consonant. Then we go to the second verb class which differs fromt he first in having mostly two-syllable imperative stems and long vowels in the endings. The second syllable of the imperative singular usually ends in -igh, which is dropped when endings are added and (as previously stated) replaced by í.

éirigh, éirígi
imigh, imígí
socraigh, socraígí
ceannaigh, ceannaígí

If the second syllable ends in l, r, n, an unstressed short vowel in the second syllable is omitted when an ending is added, unless loss of the vowel would produce a difficult-to-pronounce sequence of consonants:

oscail, osclaígí
imir, imrígí
inis, insígí
foghlaim, foglaimígí


Ugh. Half my Irish is missing. It was just verb copy anyway, and I think I figured it out, but still. We'll see if it's still up on my computer when I get home, though, I think I left that window open. If not, what the hell, typing it up again could help seal it in my memory. I think I got it, though. I think.

Something entertaining and terrifying happened over the weekend! lireavue and I did our analyses on Murderboarding of the new Haven and Grimm episodes, as usual, and then because we were up late the night before and analyzing all day and somewhat punchy, we ... well, actually, no. We've been following the Creepy Twins, Vince and Dave, on their Haven twitter accounts (in-character, yes) for shits and giggles, and at some point I tweeted Vince about how "well, if you want answers, we're investigating." And he/whoever's running the in-character account tweeted BACK with something about our our investigations were impressive and they looked forward to the report. So that said, we tweeted them (along with everyone else under the sun, because see: punchy) with the analysis report on the Haven episode after they posted this week's 'Haven Herald' saying that this week's Trouble was swine flu. "Swine flu? really? Our report says otherwise" I tweeted at him. So Vince tweets BACK with "Fascinating report, [twitterhandle], but all our sources say it was swine flu. [link to Murderboarding]" At which point we then get more than double our previous record high of hits on Sunday. This after...

So, okay, we were trundling along with a daily average, and then on Friday I posted an analysis of Juliette and Nick's relationship (Grimm, this time, not Haven) because another site, a jewelry site I think, was posting a blog entry on the engagement ring and there was going to be nepotism involved. For shits and giggles, and because I'd gotten two replies from Bitsie already, I tweeted her a link to the entry. Then she retweeted it with 'very cool' attached and suddenly our hits that day were over three times our daily average. Holy shit! Yay spike! And that was Friday or so, and then Saturday we spiked slightly, too, and at the end of the day we posted our analyses and, for shits and giggles, tweeted everyone relevant we could think of. See above for how we sent it to 'Vince' and 'Dave', I have no idea who's running those twitter accounts. And then on Sunday Vince passes on the link and then Dave retweets that tweet and suddenly we're up to... almost nine times our previous daily average. And now we have to recalculate the average, because who knows how many of these people will turn into regular readers. Or whether or not this will happen again nest weekend.

So, yeah. Um. We seem to have inadvertently gotten the attention of actors and Someones from two shows we really enjoy. Go us? We'll be in our bunker. Hiding.

House shit! We got the koi pond pretty much weeded, half the surrounding shit cleared off of it. Including chopping down most of a cottonwood tree. At least I think that's the answer to the "what the fuck is that" question, cottonwood hibiscus. It's got the right sort of elephant ear leaves and looks like the right trunk. At some point if anyone wants to play identify that plant I can pass around pictures. It's down now, because lighting fires directly under trees with big leafy leaves didn't seem like a good idea, and the koi pond is going to be the fire pit. Weeded the koi pond of all the I don't know what that was growing in it, pulled out the sticker bushes and most of the pokeweed and a couple other things I'm not sure what they were. I think one of them was trying to be an oak. And we managed to pull out the mudmat, which had dried up and cracked all to hell, as well as a ceramic plate, half a round ceramic tile, a lot of rocks, a glove or two, several plastic bags, and half a bone from something. We also found spiders, salamanders, worms, wooly worms, and probably other things I missed while the boy was hauling around things. Now, hopefully, we can get that filled in with mulch and be done with it till we fill it in with sand and cover it with rocks for the fire pit.

It's been a long, full weekend. And I'm tired, and after doing all that yardwork my legs feel oddly like a Siegebarst hit them, but my back and arms are fine. And my brain is tired, and I need a nap, but what I'm going to get is an attempt to organize my shit because that really needs to happen post-haste. Also languages. Because Irish verbs are still giving me fits and there's no conjugation book.

Comments

[lonelywalker]

A guy at work was asking me about language use in Grimm the other day, and I thought of you guys...

[kittydesade]

.... Awwww. XD What did you tell him? Or I guess I should be asking what he was asking...

[lonelywalker]

He was asking if I watched it, because he's a native German speaker but he was having a lot of trouble deciphering the names of various creatures, because they use an archaic form of the language?

[kittydesade]

That's because they're idiots. They can't do their Japanese properly either. And they can't spell German worth a damn. You can drop him off at Murderboarding if you want, I wouldn't send him to the official website itself, because of the spelling.

[lonelywalker]

I'll mention it to him, although I think the level of English might be a bit over his head :)

[kittydesade]

Ahh oops. XD Well, it was worth a shot. And if he wants to try emailing us in German or something we can try for a common language!

That's not a bad idea, though, now that I think about it, a Wesen index with the proper fucking names. There was a huge thing where they misspelled and mispronounced a word all over the place, leading me and Anna and everyone we talked to not to know what they were talking about until the DVDs came out with the glossary. And then they still misspelled it, right next to the English translation, which is how I figured out what the REAL spelling was.

I really, really want to throttle them all and go LOOK IF YOU NEED A LANGUAGE CONSULT.